Warren Gatland is convinced his Wales team can stun the critics and pull off something special at the Rugby World Cup.
Finding evidence to back up that bold assertion isn't easy.
The Welsh have won just five of their 20 games since the start of 2022.
They've plunged to No.10 in the world ranking, tied for their lowest all-time spot and many of their stalwarts, including Alun Wyn Jones and Justin Tipuric, are no longer around. Captain Ken Owens is out injured.
Their last result before heading to France? A 52-16 drubbing by South Africa, marking the first time Wales has conceded more than 50 points in a game across head coach Gatland's two spells in charge.
So, where is his optimism coming from?
"I love Wales being written off," Gatland said.
"People can keep doing that because it just makes us stronger."
Maybe it's the inner belief New Zealander Gatland has as one of the great coaching minds of his generation.
Maybe it's the fact that his Wales sides have reached the semi-finals in two of the last three World Cups.
Or maybe it's simply the draw, made three years ago, that means the Welsh will avoid any of the world's five highest-ranked teams - Ireland, New Zealand, France, South Africa and Scotland - until the semifinals, should they get there.
As it stands, getting out of the pool stage is far from certain.
Wales have been grouped with Fiji, Portugal, Australia and Georgia.
The Wallabies and Fiji are higher in the world rankings. Georgia are only one place lower - and beat the Welsh in Cardiff last November.
"Our target is to get out of our group and make the quarter-finals," Gatland told the Up Front podcast.
"We're on the good side of the draw so if we get to the quarter-finals we've got a good chance to go a long way.
"The thing with the Welsh boys, they build on momentum, they build on confidence, they start really believing."
Gatland is excited to be working with a young, hungry group of players which includes flanker Jac Morgan and hooker Dewi Lake, co-captains at the age of 23 and 24, respectively.
And in the shape of flankers Tommy Reffell and Congo-born Christ Tshiunza, and winger Louis Rees-Zammit, there certainly are some exciting talents in the team.
Whether they are ready to take Wales far at a World Cup is another question entirely and it leaves many wondering if Gatland is about to tarnish his legacy.
He has led the Welsh to three grand slams in the Six Nations as well as those two runs to the World Cup semi-finals.
He has even questioned publicly - even if it was tongue-in-cheek - why he came back for a second time after answering an SOS from the Welsh Rugby Union late in 2022 as a replacement for Wayne Pivac.
However, Gatland likes a challenge, and he's certainly got one in charge of a team with just two wins from eight in his second stint.